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Posted: May 20, 2013, 11:50 pm

Coda it's all a secret plot. Anti wolfers given special downloadable apps for iphones that overlay google maps with exact locations of wuffs. When one wants a rug or trophy one just goes and gets one, preferably out of a black helicopter..

Johnny B it's an issue in Utah, CO, and Montana as far as I've heard. Some blame it on oil production, others coyotes (with a bounty in Utah) I think there is just less pressure on predators. The deer are still there, just thin on the ground. Meanwhile the game cams show a big tom and two large black bears and oodles of song dogs.

Wish you all could decide wether the noble wolf is the guardian of the ecosystem trimming just the right amount of elk and moose, or wether they just eat mice like in Never Cry Wolf, cause you can't have it both ways.

By the way wuffs weren't brought in for elk because there never were too many. Or that's what all the scientists at your park service decided.

http://www.nps.gov/yell/naturescience/northrng.htm

Statistics: Posted by guang — Mon May 20, 2013 4:50 pm

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Posted: May 20, 2013, 2:20 pm

Try rereading, I have no idea how many YNP wolves are or have been collared....lots. Two collared wolves were killed in Wyoming 15 and 16 miles form YNP respectively. No evidence of tracking telemetry.

Statistics: Posted by ELK — Mon May 20, 2013 7:20 am

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Posted: May 20, 2013, 12:59 pm

HUH? Shorely not, eh??????

Statistics: Posted by mywolvesrock — Mon May 20, 2013 5:59 am

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Posted: May 20, 2013, 12:25 am

I find it interesting that early on in this thread on the subject of the pros and cons of collaring wolves Colorado Dave pointed out that 100% of the wolves that were collared in Yellowstone were shot when they entered Wyoming. I was surprised that in the next several pages of this thread all I read were arguments back and forth about who was right on what they said on the general subject of collaring wolves. No one discussed whether it made sense to keep collaring wolves in Yellowstone if it meant that when they left the park boundaries they would be shot by people who had radio tracking telemetry.

So, does anyone have an opinion on whether it makes sense any more to collar wolves in Yellowstone if there is a chance they will leave the park at some point. If someone thinks it's still a good idea I'd like to hear why they think so.

Statistics: Posted by Coda — Sun May 19, 2013 5:25 pm

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Posted: May 19, 2013, 7:38 pm

Reminds me of No Man's Land by Billy Joel.
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I grew up out on the eastern end of on Long Island which suffered massive urban sprawl in the late 70s, and 80s. Given he lived out there during the later part of this time and when this song was written, I'd guess it is about the urban sprawl and events that happened out there. I'm sure the reference to pines is about the pine barrens areas in Suffolk county. The area has massively changed since I moved away. The open fields where I used to launch model rockets are now housing developments. Most of the rest of the farmland has also been developed. BTW: The video is by a fan, not Billy Joel. The official video is of some concert footage.

Statistics: Posted by Bogo — Sun May 19, 2013 12:38 pm

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Posted: May 19, 2013, 7:34 pm

You are right TeeJay there are a some Southerners that want growth and change. Charlotte which is 20 miles from here seems obsessed with becoming a world class city. I think that has more to do with the Almighty Dollars than anything else. The ones pushing for growth probably have a get away some where in Montana or on a tropical Island,just waiting for the opportunity to exploit it too.Glad to hear you wouldn't change things if you moved to the West, neither would I. Its great just the way it is.

Statistics: Posted by farmgirl — Sun May 19, 2013 12:34 pm

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Posted: May 19, 2013, 7:29 pm

They probably don't realize how much more important it is than a nuclear war with Korea, a mile wide asteroid zipping through our solar system or other mundane occurrences over the coming week.

Statistics: Posted by guang — Sun May 19, 2013 12:29 pm

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Posted: May 19, 2013, 7:02 pm

I suspect they are going to have way too much on the table before this is all said and done to worry about Yellowstone. Baucus was really beating the drum to investigate conservatives last year. Now he has suddenly announced in the last couple of weeks that he is not running again.

Statistics: Posted by ELK — Sun May 19, 2013 12:02 pm

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Posted: May 19, 2013, 5:39 pm

Not likely unless you first hire a lobbyist that can slip members of CONgress a nice CONtribution and then they may agree to a meeting to discuss future CONtributions at which time if you are lucky and the promised CONtributions are large enough you may get a commitment from them to think about thinking about it.
The trick is not to bore them with any details, just stick to the facts such as the amount of the CONtributions they can expect.

Statistics: Posted by Cobalt — Sun May 19, 2013 10:39 am

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Posted: May 19, 2013, 5:13 pm

Shirley you jest!

Statistics: Posted by S_Egbert — Sun May 19, 2013 10:13 am

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Posted: May 19, 2013, 5:06 pm

TeeJay,

To bad they weren't doing the show from the 'Snitching Post' - formerly the Hitching Post turnout.

Maybe FOX News could do their show from there with the REAL Storrey!

Photodude

Statistics: Posted by Photodude — Sun May 19, 2013 10:06 am

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Posted: May 19, 2013, 5:02 pm

Good Morning Global Coolers, Consumers of Extractive Industry Stuff, UNIT ONE, CHARLES, Unit Five, The Jive Five - Bill Clinton, Algore, Mike Finley (Super MF), Bruce Babbit, Max Baucus - Toad, Shadow, Limpy, Unit 69, and Toto,

Will there be hearings on the abuse of power by the NPS with respect to the woof watchers and their tyrannical rule in Lamar??

Photodude

Statistics: Posted by Photodude — Sun May 19, 2013 10:02 am

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Posted: May 19, 2013, 1:43 pm

farmgirl wrote:
I am not from Montana,but maybe the reason they resent the people that move there is the attitute they bring with them. Here in the South we have many who have moved here from the North, supposedly because they like it here. They say they want to live in the country, however as soon as they get here they want change. They want every road paved, a Walmart within 5 miles, the County to build them a park. They want the farmer down the road who has lived here for generations to be told how he can farm his land. They say they like the friendliness of the South but they bring their Jersey attitude with them and would rather die then speak to you on the road.We have some good neighbors, they are the ones who really did move here because they liked it ,but we also have some arrogant jerks who think they are just a little above the people from here. Makes you wonder why in the world did they move here.I am sure Montana has their share of those too.When in Rome do as the Romans, don't move there and try to make into America.

It does go both ways. I am from New Jersey (thanks for the bad reference!) and have a few friends who moved to North Carolina to get away from the hustle and bustle of the north. My friend, who's been down south for 15 years now, recently complained how when he got to North Carolina, it was very peaceful and quiet, but now there are drug stores, a Walmart, etc. on the corner near his house. He hates it because that's why he left New Jersey.

So please don't blame us Northerners for attitude. I know many who have grown up "down south" who want to change the south into the North. It does go both ways.

Also, I would really love to move out west. Me and my wife first went to Yellowstone in 2008 and have been back several times since. If we could, we would probably move out there, possibly by Jackson or Gardiner. We don't want to change a thing, as that is why we love the place. I would love to get away from the craziness here in Jersey, and love the laid back attitude of the west. I don't know if it will ever happen, but who knows.

Statistics: Posted by TeeJay — Sun May 19, 2013 6:43 am

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Posted: May 19, 2013, 12:47 pm

Dave Parker wrote:
Oh come on, you are going to bring up the situation that happened with Kari? That has nothing to do with what is going on currently, my wife's family members where part of the search teams on that incident, in fact her uncle was a group commander, that was completely different that what is being discussed! Those two were nutcases, and it would not have mattered which state they lived in, in fact the son just went back to jail for being a drug dealer.

Talk about pulling all stops out!

Cripes!

Well said. The father was sent to prison shortly before they caught up with the son wasn't he?
There are nutcases everywhere who will voice support for anyone who gains notoriety, I saw a report the other night about all of the young girls voicing support for the Boston Marathon bomber for goodness sake.

Statistics: Posted by ELK — Sun May 19, 2013 5:47 am

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Posted: May 19, 2013, 3:13 am

Oh come on, you are going to bring up the situation that happened with Kari? That has nothing to do with what is going on currently, my wife's family members where part of the search teams on that incident, in fact her uncle was a group commander, that was completely different that what is being discussed! Those two were nutcases, and it would not have mattered which state they lived in, in fact the son just went back to jail for being a drug dealer.

Talk about pulling all stops out!

Cripes!

Statistics: Posted by Dave Parker — Sat May 18, 2013 8:13 pm

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