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Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: What do you think of this year's fire season?

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Looks like more moisture is predicted, but...

I'm most worried about the drought to the SW and NW of Iowa. Both directions are major water sources for the state. The other source is hurricanes pushing up the Mississippi Valley.

Statistics: Posted by Bogo — Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:42 pm


Author: Bogo
Posted: April 21, 2015, 2:42 am

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Doug Peacock speaks truth about Lummis paddling bill

guang wrote:
National Parks are an unecological anachronism left over from the days of 20 cents a gallon gasoline. A petting zoo for rich fat white people that belongs to another age.



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I could actually agree with Dave Parker on shutting down YNP for a decade. I could see something like a staged approach:

Year 1 - limited motor traffic, maybe a lottery system.
Year 2 - no motor traffic, limited foot travel
Year 3 - 7 - no motor traffic, no foot travel
Year 8 - limited foot travel
Year 9/10 - more foot travel

There would have to be some sort of maintenance allowance, access for Silver Gate / Cooke City / Mammoth and of course enforcement. The community access issue (cooke/sg) would be some of the largest issues. Well, that and the public outcry...

Statistics: Posted by Colorado_Dave — Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:06 pm


Author: Colorado_Dave
Posted: April 17, 2015, 7:06 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Doug Peacock speaks truth about Lummis paddling bill

National Parks are an unecological anachronism left over from the days of 20 cents a gallon gasoline. A petting zoo for rich fat white people that belongs to another age.

Statistics: Posted by guang — Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:37 am


Author: guang
Posted: April 17, 2015, 6:37 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Doug Peacock speaks truth about Lummis paddling bill

RikWriter wrote:
The National parks exist for the enjoyment of the people. They were built with and are maintained by our tax dollars. They don't belong to just the people in your part of the country or to the people who work for the NPS.

Also I am fairly certain a decision of that magnitude would have to be the result of legislation and it will NEVER go through congress. If the NPS or some administration tried to do it unilaterally, Congress would pass legislation countermanding it.


Rik,

No where did I imply or say it would happen, just showing an example that there are quite a few people that think this way and it is not only with Yellowstone, if you talk to people in any area of the country, that has high traffic parks, you will find that thought.

As far as them closing parks unilaterally, it has already been done in the not so long ago past and Congress didn't do anything to stop it, despite the pleas from the local business's that suffered economically during the shutdowns, I have friends that had to close shop after the last impasse between the house and the president. So it can be done.

But as I said, I didn't imply or say it would be done again.

Statistics: Posted by Dave Parker — Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:51 am


Author: Dave Parker
Posted: April 17, 2015, 5:51 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Doug Peacock speaks truth about Lummis paddling bill

Dave Parker wrote:
RikWriter wrote:
Dave Parker wrote:In this day and age, I would not be surprised to see it attached to some must pass legislation. Of course I am a proponent of closing the park down for at least ten years to let some things recover. I do know I am in the minority.



You sure are. :shock:


Well Rik,

I am in the minority, but not as much as you might think, there are a lot of people in my area of the country that believe the same way I do, including lots of people who work for the National Park Service. The park(s) are being loved to death and if the climate continues to dry out, the damage is going to become much more evident.


The National parks exist for the enjoyment of the people. They were built with and are maintained by our tax dollars. They don't belong to just the people in your part of the country or to the people who work for the NPS.

Also I am fairly certain a decision of that magnitude would have to be the result of legislation and it will NEVER go through congress. If the NPS or some administration tried to do it unilaterally, Congress would pass legislation countermanding it.

Statistics: Posted by RikWriter — Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:17 am


Author: RikWriter
Posted: April 17, 2015, 5:17 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Doug Peacock speaks truth about Lummis paddling bill

RikWriter wrote:
Dave Parker wrote:In this day and age, I would not be surprised to see it attached to some must pass legislation. Of course I am a proponent of closing the park down for at least ten years to let some things recover. I do know I am in the minority.



You sure are. :shock:


Well Rik,

I am in the minority, but not as much as you might think, there are a lot of people in my area of the country that believe the same way I do, including lots of people who work for the National Park Service. The park(s) are being loved to death and if the climate continues to dry out, the damage is going to become much more evident.

Statistics: Posted by Dave Parker — Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:46 am


Author: Dave Parker
Posted: April 17, 2015, 4:46 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Doug Peacock speaks truth about Lummis paddling bill

Dave Parker wrote:
In this day and age, I would not be surprised to see it attached to some must pass legislation. Of course I am a proponent of closing the park down for at least ten years to let some things recover. I do know I am in the minority.



You sure are. :shock:

Statistics: Posted by RikWriter — Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:12 am


Author: RikWriter
Posted: April 17, 2015, 11:12 am

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Rafting

We have rafted both rivers and had great whitewater fun on the Snake. Last year I took my 8 year old grandson out of Gardiner with the Flying Pig and he loved it. A little bit of adrenaline, some easy drifting and even a quick dip. But I will say I thought the scenery was better on the Snake River. Either way, it will be an experience they remember the rest of their lives!

Statistics: Posted by Connie — Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:17 pm


Author: Connie
Posted: April 17, 2015, 5:17 am

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Doug Peacock speaks truth about Lummis paddling bill

In this day and age, I would not be surprised to see it attached to some must pass legislation. Of course I am a proponent of closing the park down for at least ten years to let some things recover. I do know I am in the minority.

Statistics: Posted by Dave Parker — Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:18 pm


Author: Dave Parker
Posted: April 17, 2015, 3:18 am

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Doug Peacock speaks truth about Lummis paddling bill

Thank you so much for posting the link to that article. I couldn't agree more. The link within the story to the site promoting rafting in Yosemite certainly underscores what could happen in Yellowstone if the Lummis bill passes.

Statistics: Posted by BlackDragonsCaldron — Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:25 pm


Author: BlackDragonsCaldron
Posted: April 17, 2015, 2:25 am

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Rafting

Sorry, this was probably the wrong thread to post this question. I reposted in another area and can't figure out how to delete this one.

Statistics: Posted by Chad — Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:28 am


Author: Chad
Posted: April 16, 2015, 2:28 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Rafting

I would like to go white water rafting with a 10 and 8 year old in mid July. I'm trying to find a balance between some adrenaline but not scare my 8 year old, who isn't the bravest soul. The float trips look scenic but I want a little more excitement than that. So far we have lodging in Gardiner and Headwaters at Flagg Ranch but that could change if other locations open up. I'm basically trying to compare the Yellowstone vs Snake river. I'm guessing scenery will be outstanding on either river but am leaning towards the Yellowstone because of the convenience with staying in Gardiner.

What are your thoughts about the two rivers? Is one calmer and more appropriate for young children? Does one have a greater chance to see wildlife? Is scenery better on one? If they are pretty equal I'll probably stick with the Yellowstone but I am open to suggestions.

Statistics: Posted by Chad — Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:13 am


Author: Chad
Posted: April 16, 2015, 2:13 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Doug Peacock speaks truth about Lummis paddling bill

http://www.jhnewsandguide.com/opinion/columnists/the_new_west_todd_wilkinson/paddlers-should-avoid-misusing-hero-s-words/article_b4edbe3a-0cda-5517-aa6a-60ba7f32c5b6.html

Doug Peacock is apparently not happy that packrafters are misusing the late, great Edward Abbeys' words in support of the Lummis paddling bill.

As always, great insights by Peacock and brilliant writing by Todd Wilkinson.

Statistics: Posted by samparks23 — Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:59 pm


Author: samparks23
Posted: April 16, 2015, 5:59 am

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Grizzlies To Be Trapped in YNP

Wildlife officials say bear researchers will be trapping grizzlies in Yellowstone National Park over the next several months.

Read more: http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-a ... z3X3HBruKS

Statistics: Posted by Connie — Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:53 pm


Author: Connie
Posted: April 12, 2015, 12:53 am

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Bigfoot in Yellowstone?

dagobah wrote:
old yellowstoner wrote:If you were on Firehole Lake Drive last week, you were in a bear management area that is closed until Memorial Day weekend.

old yellowstoner, I just noticed your post is from April 1st (April Fools Day). So maybe you were just joking about rwarrin hiking in a closed Bear Management Area. The topic is about bigfoot in Yellowstone so I could see people posting funny things.

However, if you were serious . . . . . . the Bear Management Area page on the NPS websites states:
Firehole Bear Management Area (includes Firehole Freight Road and Firehole Lake Drive) is closed March 10 through the Friday of Memorial Day weekend

The post from rwarrin was on March 8th . . . . . . . so rwarrin was legal.

Furthermore . . . . . . in the post, rwarrin states “Well, we did come across these tracks last week while hiking up the Firehole lake drive”; since the rwarrin post was on March 8th, the words “last week” could hypothetically refer to the last week of February (which is even more in advance of March 10)

:geek:


Yep, my bad on not noticing the post date. My apologies. I guess I'm a little defensive because of the infractions I have seen this spring. Lots of people in the Park for the off season with all the employees arriving and contractors for both road and lodging construction. I've seen many blatant incursions into BMA's, feeding of wildlife, biking in closed areas, etc. Today there were fresh mountain bike tracks in both Porcelain and Back Basins at Norris.

Statistics: Posted by old yellowstoner — Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:12 pm


Author: old yellowstoner
Posted: April 11, 2015, 1:12 am

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