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Posted: August 19, 2014, 11:57 pm
Much as I love brookies, this seems like a very good plan to me. Especially now that the cleanup of the old mine site is almost finished.

Thanks for the info, Katie.

Statistics: Posted by MGoBlue — Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:57 pm


Posted: August 19, 2014, 11:56 pm
They are poisoning upper Grayling Creek with Rotenone as we type. Specimen Creek was also poisoned 2-3 years ago, also with Rotenone.

Statistics: Posted by old yellowstoner — Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:56 pm


Posted: August 19, 2014, 3:51 pm
After 10 years of trying to remove non-native brook trout, they want to poison 12 miles outside and upstream of the Park to kill the brookies.



http://m.billingsgazette.com/lifestyles ... touch=true

~Katie

Statistics: Posted by Katie — Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:51 am


Posted: August 19, 2014, 1:48 pm
"By the way is that a picture of the sphinx rock on Great Gable on your profile?"

Why yes ... yes it is "Sphinx Rock". If you look hard at where the back of the Sphinx's head connects with the slopes of Great Gable, there is a little grey smudge - me!

Possibly my favourite location on this whole planet (or any other).

Statistics: Posted by Psi — Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:48 am


Posted: August 19, 2014, 4:54 am
Best story I have heard all summer -

Statistics: Posted by Marcy — Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:54 pm


Posted: August 19, 2014, 2:36 am
I echo your words, Steve and Katie

Statistics: Posted by Bruce Gourley — Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:36 pm


Posted: August 19, 2014, 1:55 am
"Young girl" makes me think; under 12. We'll find out soon enough. Tragic. I can't imagine the shock and sorrow of having my daughter fall to her death on what was most likely a vacation. I think many folks forget just how wild Yellowstone is. It's a special and potentially dangerous place. I love the Park!

Statistics: Posted by tharreld — Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:55 pm


Posted: August 18, 2014, 8:13 pm

Yellowstone Forced to Shoot Rogue Tourists after Relocation fails:
“Some may think tourists are ‘cute’ or ‘interesting,’” said one official, “but they can be very unpredictable and dangerous.”


That's the best line of the whole piece... lol.

Statistics: Posted by Steve in the Library — Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:13 pm


Posted: August 18, 2014, 5:21 pm
Well said, Steve and Katie.

Statistics: Posted by MGoBlue — Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:21 am


Posted: August 18, 2014, 4:25 pm
Psi wrote:
Interesting article, which refers to this forum.

http://www.mybighornbasin.com/Yellowstone-No-Permit-Issued-to-Flier-of-Downed-Dr/19647888

Strongly asserts that no permit was issued. Implies that no citation will be issued and, in so doing, implies they know whodunnit (they could hardly issue a citation without knowing who to cite?!). Though this could just be a fabrication of the way the article is written.

In the article, "Al Nash, spokesperson for Yellowstone National Park" is quoted saying,

My frustration is people don't trust reputable news sources because they're not colorful enough


Hmmm, if that was said in response to the speculation in this thread, I think it's very disingenuous. I don't recall any news source saying that no permit had been issued (until this article). And much as I would rather the media/individuals did not "invent" details to fill the gaps, Al/Yellowstone NPS should know this will happen. It's not as if it's not in Yellowstone NPS's power to tell us that no permit was issued - they don't need to rely on the media. They could - oh I don't know - do their own website News Release on the subject! I wonder why they haven't.

I hope Yellowstone NPS did read the thread and I hope they got in touch with the company via the research of eilishp, Katie & MGoBlue.


From the linked article:
"Questions too were raised on the web forum over the park's reluctance to issue a citation to the drone's operator. Nash says Yellowstone officials do not issue citations for every offense, rather they look for “teachable moments.”

For Yellowstone officials, the drone landing in Grand Prismatic Spring is one such teachable moment."

I'm all for not issuing citations when a visitor merely needs to be educated so they can do the right thing - because for a very great many visitors, that's all it takes. They don't know and need to be educated. Education serves to prevent damage to Park resources and promote safety. In this case, there is no plausible deniability. Damage to a natural feature occurred (to what extent we don't yet know, and I hope and pray that some litter at the bottom of the pool is the extent of it). Commercial filming, by a prohibited method, was conducted. While engaging in a prohibited activity, the QC operator caused damage to natural features. If the perpetrator can be found, the perpetrator should be cited - THAT is making use of a "teachable moment." Sometimes citations are called for.

~Katie

Statistics: Posted by Katie — Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:25 am


Posted: August 18, 2014, 4:15 pm
Our thoughts and prayers are with this young girl's family as well... and with the staff and employees working in the Park -- including my son who is working at Canyon. With these two tragic, unnecessary deaths within the past week, I have to think there's a hard toll taken on everyone there.

Lord, in Your mercy, hear our prayers.

Statistics: Posted by Steve in the Library — Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:15 am


Posted: August 18, 2014, 4:03 pm

Young Girl Dead After Fall In Yellowstone

A young girl died Sunday morning after falling into the Grand Canyon of the Yellowstone.

The girl and family members had parked their vehicle in a trailhead parking area along the North Rim Drive, a short scenic route off the park’s Grand Loop Road near Canyon Village.

The group was about two-thirds of the way down the trail to the Brink of the Lower Falls observation platform when the child reportedly stepped off the trail and then lost her footing. She fell approximately 550 feet into the canyon.

Park personnel retrieved her body around noon Sunday.

The child’s name, age, state and hometown are being withheld pending notification of family members. The incident remains under investigation.


http://www.nps.gov/yell/parknews/14059.htm

My thoughts and prayers are with her family in their time of sorrow.

~Katie

Statistics: Posted by Katie — Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:03 am


Posted: August 18, 2014, 1:44 pm
I think that the other two are technically liable to face the consequences of the law, however, I would also theorize that losing a friend is way harsher than any fine.

Statistics: Posted by atw527 — Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:44 am


Posted: August 18, 2014, 3:45 am
If any off these 3 boys were my Son....a citation would be the least of my concerns. It's a tragic event that left a 22 year old kid dead. I imagine the initial training for when these kids start at the Park is very thourough and these kids knew what they were doing was prohibited.

Statistics: Posted by tharreld — Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:45 pm


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