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Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Ruling from DC Court on Wyoming rules

"While the incoming Trump administration shows a callous disregard for the environment, liberals have conveniently forgotten that some of the most disastrous environmental and public health crises in U.S. history have occurred on President Obama's watch."

http://www.mintpressnews.com/donald-tru ... ma/223540/

Statistics: Posted by F55 — Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:35 am


Author: F55
Posted: March 22, 2017, 1:35 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Ruling from DC Court on Wyoming rules

Hayden Valley Girl wrote:
And Trump cares even less, not just about the wildlife, but the environment either.


+100!

Case in point, EPA is being gutted by the "eco-conscious" Trump administration.

Ask yourself just one question, how much do you think a lifetime real estate developer cares about the wilderness or the environment? The closest thing to wilderness Donald Trump has ever experienced was riding around in his golf cart on one of his golf courses.

Statistics: Posted by Nikon_nerd — Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:28 pm


Author: Nikon_nerd
Posted: March 16, 2017, 10:28 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Ruling from DC Court on Wyoming rules

RikWriter wrote:
Nikon_nerd wrote:
F55 wrote:... Obama liked to grab land from the states, but didn't care so much about wildlife.


Wow, right out of the Trump/Bannon playbook ! ... Obama tapped my phones ! Obama hates wildlife ! Obama is responsible for ____!



No, it's a fact, no matter who says it. Obama did not give a damn about wildlife. He did nothing to preserve endangered species. He didn't hate them, they were just unimportant to him. And why would they be? He's a city guy who grew up in Chicago. Why would he care or even know about grizzlies or wolves? He made moves that he was told by his advisors were "pro environment" but those advisors didn't give a damn about endangered species either.

And Trump cares even less, not just about the wildlife, but the environment either.

Statistics: Posted by Hayden Valley Girl — Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:12 pm


Author: Hayden Valley Girl
Posted: March 16, 2017, 9:12 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Ruling from DC Court on Wyoming rules

RikWriter wrote:
Nikon_nerd wrote:
F55 wrote:... Obama liked to grab land from the states, but didn't care so much about wildlife.


Wow, right out of the Trump/Bannon playbook ! ... Obama tapped my phones ! Obama hates wildlife ! Obama is responsible for ____!



No, it's a fact, no matter who says it. Obama did not give a damn about wildlife. He did nothing to preserve endangered species. He didn't hate them, they were just unimportant to him. And why would they be? He's a city guy who grew up in Chicago. Why would he care or even know about grizzlies or wolves? He made moves that he was told by his advisors were "pro environment" but those advisors didn't give a damn about endangered species either.



+1! :D

Statistics: Posted by F55 — Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:42 am


Author: F55
Posted: March 14, 2017, 5:42 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Ruling from DC Court on Wyoming rules

Nikon_nerd wrote:
F55 wrote:... Obama liked to grab land from the states, but didn't care so much about wildlife.


Wow, right out of the Trump/Bannon playbook ! ... Obama tapped my phones ! Obama hates wildlife ! Obama is responsible for ____!



No, it's a fact, no matter who says it. Obama did not give a damn about wildlife. He did nothing to preserve endangered species. He didn't hate them, they were just unimportant to him. And why would they be? He's a city guy who grew up in Chicago. Why would he care or even know about grizzlies or wolves? He made moves that he was told by his advisors were "pro environment" but those advisors didn't give a damn about endangered species either.

Statistics: Posted by RikWriter — Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:14 am


Author: RikWriter
Posted: March 14, 2017, 5:14 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Ruling from DC Court on Wyoming rules

For those interested here is the initial post by WG&F. Nothing changes for a while.

WY&G Release

It also contains a link to the court ruling which I will link below. I think the ruling is worthwhile to read. Of note is that because of the wording WG&F has to be extremely conservative in issuing tags for wolves. The ruling while supporting delistment also sets a pretty high bar for setting a hunting season and limits.

U.S. Court Ruling

Statistics: Posted by Jimmy_Bob — Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:08 am


Author: Jimmy_Bob
Posted: March 14, 2017, 5:08 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Ruling from DC Court on Wyoming rules

I hope the wolves are our main concern and not which party won the election. It seems that some people just refuse to support the USA when they don't get their way.

Statistics: Posted by larryrainey — Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:11 pm


Author: larryrainey
Posted: March 10, 2017, 12:11 am

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Ruling from DC Court on Wyoming rules

Interesting replies. Look I get wanting to protect wolves, but what bugged me about the lower judge's ruling was what it was based on. The judge admitted the plan in place by Wyoming Game and Fish was based on sound science and an acceptable plan. The problem for the judge was it wasn't guaranteed to stay in place. The judge was requesting that the Wyoming legislature get involved thereby unintentionally getting a Wyoming political body involved in wildlife management policies that the WG&F try hard to remain separate from politics.

I am not surprised at all that the judge's ruling was overturned. Right now estimated wolf population densities in Idaho-MT-NW Wyoming are about equivalent to population densities in Alaska perhaps even higher. People, whom I am confident in knowing wolf calls from their experience in other states, are hearing them in the Bighorns, and I possibly saw one this past summer. Was in a bit of a rush so didn't stop as I first assumed coyote. It wasn't until I started thinking that was one big, white coyote with no tan or brown coloration and that is where they have been heard. The Wyoming plan does not allow poison or trapping. The wolves are too smart to be eliminated by shooting. My thoughts are wolves will become more wary of humans and thus harder to spot outside the Parks, continue to expand their range at a somewhat slower pace, and outside of a massive illegal poisoning effort will not be wiped out from areas they currently are even outside the trophy zone. We shall see.

Statistics: Posted by Jimmy_Bob — Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:22 am


Author: Jimmy_Bob
Posted: March 7, 2017, 5:22 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Ruling from DC Court on Wyoming rules

All of those things may be true or not, but it doesn't change the fact that Democratic judges are screwing over the wolves!
We need to leave them alone!!!

Statistics: Posted by F55 — Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:39 pm


Author: F55
Posted: March 6, 2017, 8:39 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Ruling from DC Court on Wyoming rules

F55 wrote:
... Obama liked to grab land from the states, but didn't care so much about wildlife.


Wow, right out of the Trump/Bannon playbook ! ... Obama tapped my phones ! Obama hates wildlife ! Obama is responsible for ____!

Statistics: Posted by Nikon_nerd — Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:28 pm


Author: Nikon_nerd
Posted: March 6, 2017, 8:28 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Ruling from DC Court on Wyoming rules

This really sucks.
BTW, the majority of these judges were appointed by Democratic administration. Obama liked to grab land from the states, but didn't care so much about wildlife.

Statistics: Posted by F55 — Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:39 am


Author: F55
Posted: March 6, 2017, 5:39 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Ruling from DC Court on Wyoming rules

Probably not much that can be done while the non-eco friendly Republicans have the majority.

For the next few years, ranchers will have their way, which unfortunately is not very wolf tolerant.

Statistics: Posted by Nikon_nerd — Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:32 am


Author: Nikon_nerd
Posted: March 6, 2017, 4:32 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Ruling from DC Court on Wyoming rules

I was expecting congress to deal this blow. They probably will anyway with much larger ramifications.

Statistics: Posted by Steve — Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:25 pm


Author: Steve
Posted: March 4, 2017, 12:25 am

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Ruling from DC Court on Wyoming rules

Casper Star Tribune Story

U.S. appeals court overturned the ruling by Judge Amy Bermen Jackson. So what happens next? Appeal and/or pressure to relist?

Statistics: Posted by Jimmy_Bob — Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:37 pm


Author: Jimmy_Bob
Posted: March 3, 2017, 10:37 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • 2017 Bison Herd Reduction to Resume (Update)

Defer period is over. Herd reduction back on.

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-worl ... slaughter/

Statistics: Posted by Nikon_nerd — Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:14 am


Author: Nikon_nerd
Posted: February 3, 2017, 4:14 pm

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