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Posted: September 17, 2014, 6:15 pm
Well I will be interested in seeing the back story on this one, quite a few blanks to fill in right now.

Statistics: Posted by Dave Parker — Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:15 am


Posted: September 17, 2014, 4:53 pm
I don't know any more than you do from the articles at this point man. Perhaps I shouldn't have saild EVERYTHING "wrong" but it sure seems the guy should have steered far clearer of a sow with cubs. Surprised with tracks they haven't made species determination?

Statistics: Posted by JohnnyB — Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:53 am


Posted: September 17, 2014, 4:21 pm
Thanks for the links, John, I hadn't even heard about this.

Besides not carrying bear spray or a firearm, do you have any other info on mistakes this poor fellow made? The article notes that two deer carcasses and a bear daybed area were nearby, but it's hard to tell from this report whether he should have known about them, or even if the deer could have been killed after the researcher was since he'd been missing for a week before he was found.

Glad you were not harmed by the bear who charged you! Did he veer off before you would have had to hit him with the bear spray?

Statistics: Posted by MGoBlue — Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:21 am


Posted: September 17, 2014, 3:45 pm
Oh boy. From this article I found at another forum it appears this researcher did just about everything wrong:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/sns-rt ... 6688.story

Statistics: Posted by JohnnyB — Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:45 am


Posted: September 17, 2014, 3:06 pm
for Teton Wilderness FS Researcher's death.

http://www.jhnewsandguide.com/jackson_h ... 2abc3.html

This was a bit eerie for me this morning. I was charged by a large boar grizzly not far from this location in July 2012.

Be careful out there friends. Hyperphagia is winding up. Here is a view of the Cub Creek drainage from the crest of the Continental Divide.

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Statistics: Posted by JohnnyB — Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:06 am


Posted: September 15, 2014, 1:17 pm
That makes sense. That is what my interest was with the post. Did some producer just fabricate these guys to serve his purpose. I know with the guy in NC he is definitely eccentric but right down the road from him I'm sure there are plush vacation homes and Appalachian State University. The only one that sheds a negative light on nature is the guy I mentioned with the wolves. But again, I doubt if he has much influence over anyone. Just entertainment I guess.

Statistics: Posted by larryrainey — Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:17 am


Posted: September 15, 2014, 12:05 pm
guang wrote:
Likewise I'd hate to see public lands privatized simply because people don't like some policies of the feds


Now THAT would be a disaster. It makes me sick to think of what Yellowstone would be like if it were in private hands.

Statistics: Posted by MGoBlue — Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:05 am


Posted: September 15, 2014, 5:28 am
This show is so scripted, I know Tom and normally stop by to say hi to him every time I head to WA or OR, his house is really not that far from Hwy 56, but it is a remote area, that looks a long ways away from anything. I get a kick out of these shows, because they are so far from the truth. But hey, these guys have to make a living somehow.

Statistics: Posted by Dave Parker — Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:28 pm


Posted: September 15, 2014, 3:19 am
Dave, I don't have it audio tuned or anything. I catch it once in a while. Believe me I don't think it brain washes many people. I truly watch it for the scenery. We don't get to see these sites everyday. Most of the the country just doesn't have the natural beauty that the west does. The "stars" don't seem destined to infleunce many people. Tom, from near Libby seems like a good sort of guy. Now Eustis, from NC is only a few hours from us and I can tell you, it's really scripted. We don't have enough snow to create any hardships and they depict him as surviving the elements. lol That's what I was wondering, if these characters are even real or are they soap operas stars.

Statistics: Posted by larryrainey — Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:19 pm


Posted: September 15, 2014, 2:35 am
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Statistics: Posted by Deep Woods — Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:35 pm


Posted: September 15, 2014, 1:59 am
The lawsuits are motivated by the Equal Access to Justice Act, which is a good law and helps lots of people. As a tool used by small litigating environmental NGOs to raise funds it has been a disaster. I sure would hate to see it thrown out with the bathwater. Likewise I'd hate to see public lands privatized simply because people don't like some policies of the feds.

This topic of Rod Coronado is being discussed at the Wildlife News.
http://www.thewildlifenews.com/2014/09/ ... lf-patrol/

Statistics: Posted by guang — Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:59 pm


Posted: September 15, 2014, 1:14 am
Larry, why do you guys watch this crap, those of us that live here don't.

Don't believe everything you see on TV

Statistics: Posted by Dave Parker — Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:14 pm


Posted: September 15, 2014, 12:31 am
Is this program a made for TV deal or is he actually hunting these wolves. He is in what they are calling the "Ruby Valley" and it seems to be over toward Enis. Would YP wolves stray that far? It does not do the wolves any good when they are portrayed as livestock killers and "vicious predators". This is definitely not the type of publicity they need!

Statistics: Posted by larryrainey — Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:31 pm


Posted: September 14, 2014, 7:23 pm
guang wrote:
I don't think there is any common ground on which to build consensus Dave Parker. See the two replies above yours. Those are not the conditions under which wolves were reintroduced. Antis have had to accept wolves, it's time for the pros to accept hunting and trapping. Within those two realities is the place for consensus.


guang,

I believe there is a common ground to come to, what I am worried about, it will not be with anyone that is currently involved and walking the earth. With the upcoming elections, I believe we are going to see a lot of changes in the current political landscape in this country, which will make a big difference in how the ESA and other environmental laws are administered. I do know that the current practice of filing lawsuits all of the time, is not going to help anything and it is going to lead to a lot of congressional movements in the future.

Statistics: Posted by Dave Parker — Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:23 pm


Posted: September 14, 2014, 5:58 pm
I don't think there is any common ground on which to build consensus Dave Parker. See the two replies above yours. Those are not the conditions under which wolves were reintroduced. Antis have had to accept wolves, it's time for the pros to accept hunting and trapping. Within those two realities is the place for consensus.

Statistics: Posted by guang — Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:58 am


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