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Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Yellowstone River Closed In Response To Ongoing Fish Kil

Sad to say that the fish kill and stream closures are more than "serious". They're absolutely devastating to the Montanans who own property and/or who operate businesses in the communities located near the Yellowstone or near one of its tributaries like the Boulder River, the Stillwater River and the Shields River. Tourism, fishing and outdoor recreation are key components of the MT State and local economies. So, unless the fish kill stops soon, it's going to have lasting effects and consequences for all Montanans and the State.

Statistics: Posted by yellvet — Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:33 am


Author: yellvet
Posted: August 24, 2016, 3:33 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: US Hwy 89/191/287 CLOSED between Flagg Ranch - Leeks Mar

Saw this information linked on Facebook. http://wildfiretoday.com/2016/08/23/maple-fire-closes-south-entrance-to-yellowstone-national-park/. Apparently the decision was made on 7/25 to allow this one to burn rather than suppressing it.

With the Maple fire burning near the West Entrance road, we decided not to come up this weekend. We'd debated it, but figure it's going to be too smoky to be very pleasant.

Statistics: Posted by ute_fan — Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:12 pm


Author: ute_fan
Posted: August 23, 2016, 7:12 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: US Hwy 89/191/287 CLOSED between Flagg Ranch - Leeks Mar

Crap. I'm going to be in the park in three weeks. I really hope the fires are under control by then or it's going to be a nightmare.

Statistics: Posted by RikWriter — Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:12 am


Author: RikWriter
Posted: August 23, 2016, 1:12 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • US Hwy 89/191/287 CLOSED between Flagg Ranch - Leeks Marina

Currently no access to YS South; Lizard Creek CG being evacuated.


The Highway north and south bound between Leeks Marina and Flagg Ranch in Grand Teton National Park is temporarily closed due to fire activity. Lizard Creek Campground is being evacuated. Access to the southern entrance of Yellowstone National Park is not available at this time.


Nixle Alert: http://local.nixle.com/alert/5709008/

Fire Incident Page: http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/4954/

WYDOT Road Status Page: http://www.wyoroad.info/pls/Browse/WRR. ... oute=US191

Statistics: Posted by atw527 — Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:22 pm


Author: atw527
Posted: August 23, 2016, 12:22 am

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Mountain Lions

A new op-ed (not by me) in the New York Times that makes mention of the Coywolf!

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/opini ... .html?_r=0

Statistics: Posted by noahcomet — Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:44 am


Author: noahcomet
Posted: August 22, 2016, 2:44 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Yellowstone River Closed In Response To Ongoing Fish Kil

This sounds like some pretty serious stuff. Got to wonder where it came from. Lots of visiting fisher men and women in that stretch of river.

Statistics: Posted by zeaper — Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:28 pm


Author: zeaper
Posted: August 19, 2016, 8:28 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Yellowstone River Closed In Response To Ongoing Fish Kill


(Bozeman, Mont.) - Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks is implementing an immediate closure of all water-based recreation (fishing, wading, floating, tubing, boating, etc.) on the Yellowstone River and its tributaries from Yellowstone National Park’s northern boundary at Gardiner to the Highway 212 bridge in Laurel. This significant action on the part of the Department is in response to the ongoing and unprecedented fish kill on the Yellowstone. This action is necessary to protect the fishery and the economy it sustains. The closure will also help limit the spread of the parasite to adjacent rivers through boats, tubes, waders and other human contact and minimize further mortality in all fish species.


http://fwp.mt.gov/news/newsReleases/hea ... _4277.html

Statistics: Posted by atw527 — Fri Aug 19, 2016 10:38 am


Author: atw527
Posted: August 19, 2016, 5:38 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Mountain Lions

I think the question is whether what you saw were actually just a variant of wolf. This is the article I meant to share---new science as of a few months ago:

http://www.livescience.com/55586-wolves ... ecies.html

I suppose we're talking about the same thing: a coyote/wolf hybrid. What's becoming clear is that many wolves have some coyote in them and vice-versa. So your point is well-taken: yes, a predominantly-wolf "coy-wolf" (by any name) probably would help to reduce the deer population. (And probably would meet an ignominious end at the hands of a gun-toting rancher somewhere.)

Statistics: Posted by noahcomet — Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:26 pm


Author: noahcomet
Posted: August 16, 2016, 8:26 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Mountain Lions

Noah, I thought you might like to see this article shared with me today. I can attest that the coyotes we see here in the Southeast are much larger than what I see in Yellowstone.

"Greater Than The Sum of Its Parts"

<snip>
"...Interbreeding between animal species usually leads to offspring less vigorous than either parent—if they survive at all. But the combination of wolf, coyote and dog DNA that resulted from this reproductive necessity generated an exception. The consequence has been booming numbers of an extraordinarily fit new animal . . ."
<snip>
... With larger jaws, more muscle and faster legs, individual coywolves can take down small deer. A pack of them can even kill a moose."

http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21677188-it-rare-new-animal-species-emerge-front-scientists-eyes?fsrc=scn/fb/te/pe/ed/greaterthanthesumofitsparts

Statistics: Posted by Connie — Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:10 am


Author: Connie
Posted: August 16, 2016, 6:10 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Mountain Lions

I share your pessimism, Connie, hence my commentary---I wish we were wrong, but history tells otherwise.

As for coyotes---I don't think so. They take fawns from time to time, but the usual quarry is smaller: rabbits, voles, mice, and the like. Cougars, of course, are deer specialists. The "coywolves" (though that speciation has been contested: http://theconversation.com/yes-eastern- ... hing-50368) might do more. But as you say, they're likely to be persecuted too.

Every time I return home from a trip to Yellowstone/Teton, I feel a kind of emptiness---it's the lack of big predators and ecosystemic balance. But I know most people wouldn't share that feeling---present company excluded.

Statistics: Posted by noahcomet — Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:09 pm


Author: noahcomet
Posted: August 15, 2016, 3:09 am

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Mountain Lions

Would not tolerance of coyotes/coywolves already populating the Eastern seaboard accomplish the same goal? But whether it's coyotes or mountain lions, people will kill them regardless of the good they would do.

Statistics: Posted by Connie — Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:54 pm


Author: Connie
Posted: August 14, 2016, 11:54 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Mountain Lions

Oh, not doubt---but that's not the point. Hunters make a big contribution but the lions would have better penetration into areas where hunting is prohibited, wouldn't have seasonal limits, and (even if not by much) would add to the tally. You might be surprised---a single lion can kill a couple hundred deer a year.

And of course, the point is a bigger one than that---it's about restoring some semblance of the natural order and about people putting their money where their mouths are.

But I hear you---not likely to happen.

Statistics: Posted by noahcomet — Sun Aug 14, 2016 1:49 pm


Author: noahcomet
Posted: August 14, 2016, 8:49 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Mountain Lions

Yea, good luck with that plan :D
Last year hunters in Missouri killed 278,000 deer. Lions can't compete with that. While lion sightings in Missouri are on the increase, I can't imagine the # of lions needed to make a dent as significant as the deer hunting season.

Statistics: Posted by Steve — Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:49 pm


Author: Steve
Posted: August 14, 2016, 7:49 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Mountain Lions

YNETers gave me such food for thought re: the Denver Post piece I wrote a few months back; thought you might find this one in the Baltimore Sun of interest, too---especially since there was an almost-attack in Idaho yesterday, near Rexburg in (or adjacent to; depends on how you measure) the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bs-ed-mountain-lions-20160814-story.html

Statistics: Posted by noahcomet — Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:05 am


Author: noahcomet
Posted: August 14, 2016, 4:05 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Pat Bohannan's wife dies in car crash

Thanks for posting this. Pat posted on Twitter Saturday night about his terrible loss, and I replied to him there.
It's awful to lose a spouse like that, and when you're working 2,000 miles away, I'm sure it adds even more stress.
My heart really goes out to him.

Statistics: Posted by lah — Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:46 am


Author: lah
Posted: August 8, 2016, 6:46 pm

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