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Posted: July 22, 2014, 7:26 pm
I don't know when or how most readers of this forum will be able to watch it but you might nonetheless be interested to know that at 8pm (BST) on 31 July, the UK TV channel BBC2 will be showing "Beavers Behaving Badly" as part of its long-running Natural World series. The programme is about beavers in Jackson Hole and the problems they can cause for the human residents. It's also about the work of Drew Reed in trapping and relocating troublesome beavers.

Statistics: Posted by Psi — Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:26 pm

Posted: July 22, 2014, 10:39 am
Dear larryrainey,

Not associating you with Atlanta - just Georgia. I would think the Atlanta paper would be for sale everywhere in Georgia, like the Denver Post is in Colorado, or the Billings Gazette in Eastern Montana and Northern Wyoming.

The access issue is in my initial posts, and usually in my responses to other original posts. True, one may have to look hard, but it is there.

Remember: With them it is always about politics with the spin on resource protection, safety, and funding.

Take cattle grazing on public land. The issue for the environMENATALIST is cattle ruin the resource - the cattle are not ever a resource to the MENTALISTS - and the rancher never pays enough to the guvmint in grazing fees. The real angle is natural ungulates - elk, deer, moose - need the habitat to be prey for predators - bears, wolves, coyotes, etc. Hunting ungulates is a sin because it is taking away the prey of predators.

That is there angle on hunting and ranching, and sometimes that is hard to follow as well.


Statistics: Posted by Photodude — Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:39 am

Posted: July 21, 2014, 12:28 am
I do understand a little better now Photodude. Sometimes your real message gets lost. I am not for waste and do appreciate you being an advocate for what you believe. You are fortunate to live so close to YP and I can't blame you for wanting more access. Keep up the good work and maybe at some point there will be less waste and progress for what you are fighting for. Peace out.

Please don't associate me with Atlanta. I get to YP more often than Atlanta!

Statistics: Posted by larryrainey — Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:28 pm

Posted: July 19, 2014, 3:06 pm
Dear larryrainey,

From Page One: >>>>"You seem to have a problem with everything that's done in the park so I figured this was just one more thing."<<<< - larryrainey.

Everything in the park involving the NPS and/or environMENTAL groups is political. I, 99.999999999999999999% of the time, do not agree with their Marxist-like politics. And I have no use for hypocrites, which they are.

They are hypocrites because they idle their car engines seemingly all the time, yet they are the first to implement policies, rules, regulations, and laws to stem carbon dioxide emissions because they say excessive CO2 is the cause of global warming. This is one forum/venue in which I can tell the storrey of who they really are. You will likely find cream puff/la dee da stories of YP in your Atlanta Urinal and Constipation as opposed to what is really going on.

I like to sit at the Upper Terrace Gate just out of Mammoth when the spring plowing begins, as it is a bottle neck for all to pass through. I like to document the first day's events and see if it coincides with what the "news" is reporting. To my surprise, non other than Superintendent Dan Wenk, appeared in his Nissan pick-up truck with South Dakota plates. After a lengthy conversation, I pointed out his engine was idling. He said it was not. I said it was, and so on. Finally, I pointed to the exhaust fume plume generated by the chilly early March morning, and he then realized it was on and shut it off.

The engine idling - emissions presumably ruining YP and Earth itself - is not the only hypocritical thing these ppl do, although clean air in YP was one of the leading factors in the Winter Use Plan which severely effected public access in the form of daily quotas for over-snow vehicles. There are many more things they do - NPS and enviros, which in YP are one in the same excluding many of the rank and file maintenance workers - that contradict not only the mission statement of the NPS, but also rum counter to what environMENTALISM is, alledgedly, supposed to be such as habitat loss. They themselves are quick to live in developed areas within the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem. They even develop areas.

If fair and equal access was the norm in YP, I would leave them alone. If they would not foist environMENTAL laws on everyone but themselves, I would leave them alone. I have written to them - YP superintendents - numerous times suggesting they change this or that, and often times the only time I get a response from them is to involve a third party, such as the director of the NPS, or a member of my Congressional delegation.

Resource protection, safety, and funding - the presumed lack of funding - is not how they manage the park with respect to themselves. And in many cases, it is not how they live their personal lives either. Any one of those three, or any combination of them, is the reason you and I and the public is not in Hayden Valley in April when the road is plowed. Some of us - the public - would like to be in Hayden Valley when the road is plowed, but if that is not for you so be it, you don't have to come.

But I will keep on fighting for fair and equal access for everyone, including you. That is what I like to do. And that is what I will keep on doing.

Just HOPING to make a CHANGE.


Statistics: Posted by Photodude — Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:06 am

Posted: July 16, 2014, 12:21 am
Thanks, Dave and BlackDragonsCaldron.

I'm naive in the workings of thermals, so it is interesting to me when new activity becomes present. Not that I think this is an early sign of "impending doom of the super volcano" but it does go to show that the earth is ever changing and no matter where you put a road, Mother Nature will teach you a lesson. :)

Statistics: Posted by Alicia — Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:21 pm

Posted: July 15, 2014, 6:33 pm
It is ridiculous that their social media TEAM couldn't get out the word that the road was opened on Saturday instead of yesterday. The Tweet was yesterday at 12:40. It takes all of one minute to Tweet.


Statistics: Posted by Katie — Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:33 am

Posted: July 14, 2014, 4:24 pm

Thank you for your comments...CONGRATULATIONS ON THE NEW ADDITION....We enjoy Ethan's growth each day...It truly is amazing how much they grow up in a year....Ethan is "jabbering" (not quite saying real words, yet), crawls all over the place (doesn't like walking because it takes him much longer to get where he's going) and climbs on anything that he can.


I believe in equal protection under the laws. I have problems with "corporate welfare". I have similar problems with welfare for those who can work but choose not to. I also have problems with seniors paying much, much less than other people...And, I am already starting to qualify for "senior discounts" (IHOP's starts at 55). This country was founded on the premise of equal opportunity and functioned well when that thought ruled the day...When we give one group a "break" others in this and successive generations must pick up the tab for that "generosity"....I deplore today's politicians (of both parties) who seem to follow one common theme: buy today's votes from the pockets who must repay the debt tomorrow.


Statistics: Posted by grizynp — Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:24 am

Posted: July 13, 2014, 5:20 pm
Yellowstone Tour Guides reported late yesterday that the Virginia Cascades road is now open again.

It is disappointing that despite the establishment of Twitter and Facebook pages by the public affairs office in Yellowstone, neither those social media sites had an announcement of the re-opening of these roads. The last tweet, as of when I am posting this, was on June 11. I guess they don't work on weekends.

Our local ABC affiliate in Denver actually ran the story of the Firehole Lake Drive closure on the evening news yesterday - many hours after the road had reopened.

Statistics: Posted by BlackDragonsCaldron — Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:20 am

Posted: July 12, 2014, 7:12 pm
A ranger at the Old Faithful Visitor Education Center told me that Firehole Lake Drive re-opened a few hours ago.

Unfortunately, the road information recording (307-344-2117) does not list the status of side roads like Firehole Lake Drive, Blacktail Plateau Drive, Virginia Cascades Drive, etc. I wish they had all of that information in one place.

I was told by the Norris Ranger Station that Virginia Cascade Drive is closed because the road is crumbling. She had no information on what they plan to do about it.

Statistics: Posted by BlackDragonsCaldron — Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:12 pm

Posted: July 12, 2014, 6:42 pm
Hey Grizz, When those struggling college students start staying home at night, chunk their I-phones, I-pods, I-pads, direct TV, don't spend money on beer, and drive old cars I will agree with you. We had it good in college. This generation has it great in college! Now homeless people traveling to visit our NP's should get in free!

Statistics: Posted by larryrainey — Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:42 am

Posted: July 12, 2014, 6:23 pm
No, I don't. You seem to have a problem with everything that's done in the park so I figured this was just one more thing. I guess it's the old cry wolf scenario. Some people are just into the political stuff and some aren't. I'm not. If it's your passion, more power to you. If it's a grudge, forget it and use your time for more important things. Have a good day. LR

Statistics: Posted by larryrainey — Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:23 am

Posted: July 12, 2014, 4:51 pm
Alicia, I have seen them repair this type of stuff in the past by using culvert tubes under the road to channel the hot water, if that is actually what is causing it. If it is a steam vent, that would create a whole different set of problems.

Statistics: Posted by Dave Parker — Sat Jul 12, 2014 9:51 am

Posted: July 12, 2014, 3:59 pm
How is it being melted? If an underground channel of boiling water from a thermal is the cause, how can the road be "fixed?" Wouldn't it just melt again?

Statistics: Posted by Alicia — Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:59 am

Posted: July 12, 2014, 3:22 pm
Photodude wrote:
From Page One - >>>>"You might owe Mr. Wenk something of an apology since you clearly didn't know the facts/laws surrounding your "license plate-gate". You were kinda banging that drum pretty loudly on here without knowing the actual regulations on that."<<<< - DanS - seller of photos of captive animals.

Not really. I asked PAT for the statute - law - and all I received was gobbledygook (more cud, if you will) from one Crat to another. Cite me the federal exempting SoDak Dan - DanW - from Wyoming law.


Dear Photodudue (<-I see from your signature above you changed the spelling of your name?),

Well PandBK gave you all you needed.
YNP is under exclusive Federal jurisdiction (since it was created as a National Park before the surrounding states were officially states). I'm a bit busy these days so I won't waste my time looking up Federal statutes. Feel free to post any proof you have though. Otherwise good luck with this facet of the crusade focused on the YNP superintendent. Without any hard and fast proof that Mr. Wenk is subject to the whims of your personal interpretations of Wyoming state laws... I'll be on the lookout for your "open letter apology to Dan Wenk".

Happy to see from the postings on this forum in the last couple of months that the fire behind the crusade still burns. It seemed like this forum had really slowed down over the past 6-8 months.

Statistics: Posted by DanS — Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:22 am

Posted: July 12, 2014, 2:01 pm
Dear larryrainey,

I am not sure you fully understand what the school funding issue in YP. Do you? Please respond.


Statistics: Posted by Photodude — Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:01 am

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