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Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Changes in Yellowstone's winter travel noticeable

Agreed ATW, I wasn't thinking of pure transportation in the park, of course the only way to travel there. I was talking about playing on them.

Statistics: Posted by larryrainey — Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:43 pm


Author: larryrainey
Posted: January 29, 2016, 12:43 am

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Changes in Yellowstone's winter travel noticeable

larryrainey wrote:
True snowmobilers don't look to the park for recreational riding. They go where there aren't any regulations. Tourist ride in the park! As a tourist it an awesome experience, something a person treasures for a long time, but for pure riding the park really is restrictive.


I don't know if I would call myself a tourist for using a snowmobile in the park. I would say that they are used for transportation inside Yellowstone instead of recreation.

If you want to use your snowmobile as a tool to get to unique places, go to Yellowstone. If you just want to cruise through power fields and climb hills, go somewhere like Island Park.

Statistics: Posted by atw527 — Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:32 am


Author: atw527
Posted: January 26, 2016, 5:32 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Changes in Yellowstone's winter travel noticeable

True snowmobilers don't look to the park for recreational riding. They go where there aren't any regulations. Tourist ride in the park! As a tourist it an awesome experience, something a person treasures for a long time, but for pure riding the park really is restrictive.

Statistics: Posted by larryrainey — Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:42 pm


Author: larryrainey
Posted: January 26, 2016, 1:42 am

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Changes in Yellowstone's winter travel noticeable

Awesome, I can't imagine the park in winter with all those machines (2002 level). Looks like the snowmobilers have realized there are lots of other places to use their machines.
Let's hope the NPS keeps up the good work in getting this type of use under control!

There have been some good discussions on decreasing the impact of visitors on this park in other places in this forum - I'll try and locate a link to the one that comes to mind...

Statistics: Posted by Colorado_Dave — Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:28 pm


Author: Colorado_Dave
Posted: January 25, 2016, 9:28 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Changes in Yellowstone's winter travel noticeable

I must admit the park is wonderfully quiet in the winter time.

If summers start to reach a breaking point, what are alternatives to limiting the traffic?

Statistics: Posted by atw527 — Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:25 pm


Author: atw527
Posted: January 25, 2016, 7:25 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Changes in Yellowstone's winter travel noticeable

Changes in Yellowstone's winter travel noticeable inside park

http://billingsgazette.com/lifestyles/recreation/changes-in-yellowstone-s-winter-travel-noticeable-inside-park/article_1a9526ce-586a-53cb-b111-2b0324cddf6d.html

Keeping people out of the Park not only makes for a more pleasurable visit for those that can get in, it makes the jobs of the Park Service much easier.

Just wait it’s only a matter of time before they restrict and control summer entrance’s also. I bet they will use the same phony reasons that were used to promote the winter restrictions.

Statistics: Posted by zeaper — Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:56 am


Author: zeaper
Posted: January 25, 2016, 3:56 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Wild Mammals of Wyoming and Yellowstone National Park Book

Just thought I would throw out some information about this book. I have been working on my master's in Biology at Miami University and have taken a bit of time away from it, but still doing some independent study and came across this book, which was released yesterday. I have been looking for a good book that has more information about species than just the typical Peterson Field Guides, but not wanting a lengthy dissertation on individual species. I am not sure that this book fills the bill, but I am still excited when I can find a new book on North American mammals, especially one on mammals from my favorite vacation spot.

The book is authored by Steven Buskirk, a professor at the University of Wyoming. Here is a direct link to the website, and as of this writing, there is a coupon on there for 30% the price, bringing it down to about $60. The book itself is a nice hard cover, and so far, I think it is going to make a valuable addition to my library.

http://www.wyomammals.com

The website has some samples from the text as well as a table contents.

Statistics: Posted by westskies — Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:16 pm


Author: westskies
Posted: January 20, 2016, 9:16 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Ahwanee is no longer; OFI next?

I agree that I am quite disappointed in Delaware North's approach to this, and I could believe that it could have some severe backlash to them at their other properties (specifically the general stores in Yellowstone). That said, it will be an interesting legal decision, since Delaware North is claiming they were forced to purchase the trade names from the prior concessionaire by the Park Service.

It is interesting that the Park Service is valuing the trade names at $3.5 million, while Delaware North is claiming $51 million. If you look at Delaware North's response, they indicate that the bid that they lost required the winning bidder to obtain the names by purchasing them from Delaware.

So I am disappointed in their approach, and it seems like they are playing the sore loser by holding these iconic names hostage, but if they own the trade names and are listed as the owner in the federal registers, then it is their property. It will be interesting to see how the case law turns out on this one.

Statistics: Posted by westskies — Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:46 pm


Author: westskies
Posted: January 20, 2016, 8:46 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Ahwanee is no longer; OFI next?

I'm surprised that no one has posted anything about the big flap over Delaware North claiming ownership of the name of the Ahwahnee Hotel in Yosemite. Admittedly, Xanterra still has about 18 years to go on their Yellowstone contract but can you imagine the consequences if Delaware North prevails in their demand of $51 million for the names of the Ahwahnee, Curry Village, etc.?

Changing the name of the Old Faithful Inn would probably not sit well with YNetters.

http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2016/01/14/yos ... rk-dispute

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... e=5747C34E

I'm posting this here instead of the "Other National Parks" forum because I'm inclined to write a letter to Delaware North to let them know I will not be buying anything from the Yellowstone General Stores on my next trip to the park unless they rethink their decision. To me, it was a risky PR move on their part to stir up this kind of resentment with the public. I hope a lot of people let them know that.

Statistics: Posted by BlackDragonsCaldron — Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:07 pm


Author: BlackDragonsCaldron
Posted: January 20, 2016, 4:07 am

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: More details on YNP Fatal Grizzly Bear attack last summe

You can read the Board of Review Report and Recommendations as well as the NPS investigative Report at this site:

http://www.nps.gov/yell/learn/news/16004.htm

It is a very sobering read. Not only did Mr. Crosby's attitude about bear spray eliminate almost any chance of him escaping this encounter alive, it also cost the life of the mother bear and sentenced the two cubs to a life in a zoo. I consider that to be irresponsible when the data on the use of bear spray is so compelling.

The board of review writers were clearly dismayed at the lack of effectiveness of the NPS programs to make the public (and park employees) more bear aware and to take the recommended precautions when traveling in known bear country.

The fact that park employees seem to have as cavalier an attitude about bear safety as the general public does not speak well to the effectiveness of any training programs by Xanterra, Medcor, etc. Considering that employees often spend a lot of their free time exploring the park, this is especially troublesome.

The number of man hours and the resources expended searching for Crosby, investigating the circumstances of his death and writing these three reports are staggering. One hopes that some progress will be made in changing human behavior. Yellowstone is not an environment in which people should be complacent or even dismissive about bear safety precautions.

Statistics: Posted by BlackDragonsCaldron — Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:29 pm


Author: BlackDragonsCaldron
Posted: January 20, 2016, 3:29 am

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Wyoming Politician tizzy fit against the Feds

For the record I did read the article. Maybe I should have not limited myself to financial reimbursement. Regardless of whether the feds pay them, is it their responsibility to dedicate the resources?

I think what it boils down to is that Wyoming is upset they got wolf management taken away from them and yet they are asked to enforce laws they didn't want.

Statistics: Posted by atw527 — Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:20 pm


Author: atw527
Posted: January 20, 2016, 3:20 am

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Wyoming Politician tizzy fit against the Feds

atw527 wrote:
Doesn't it sort of make sense though (honest question)? If the feds decide to outlaw something, why should the state foot the bill in enforcing it?


I agree with you, but if you read the entire article you'll see that the feds currently reimburse G&F for all of their work spent on wolf and grizzly poaching, so the state isn't really footing the bill.

Statistics: Posted by Woolly the Mammoth — Tue Jan 19, 2016 7:59 pm


Author: Woolly the Mammoth
Posted: January 20, 2016, 2:59 am

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: More details on YNP Fatal Grizzly Bear attack last summe

I hope more people can learn from this and end up caring bear spray.

Statistics: Posted by atw527 — Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:17 pm


Author: atw527
Posted: January 19, 2016, 8:17 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: Wyoming Politician tizzy fit against the Feds

Doesn't it sort of make sense though (honest question)? If the feds decide to outlaw something, why should the state foot the bill in enforcing it?

Statistics: Posted by atw527 — Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:27 pm


Author: atw527
Posted: January 19, 2016, 7:27 pm

Yellowstone Related News and Politics • Re: More details on YNP Fatal Grizzly Bear attack last summe

Yeah, I hate to speak ill of the dead, but that was really, really stupid.

Statistics: Posted by RikWriter — Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:27 am


Author: RikWriter
Posted: January 19, 2016, 5:27 pm

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