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For a grizzly sow with cubs eating berries. Could last a while. Closure from Murie Ranch Road south to Death Canyon Trailhead road.
Statistics: Posted by Absarokanaut — Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:09 am
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Statistics: Posted by pugman170 — Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:12 am
Posted: August 11, 2018, 3:12 pm
Everything you wrote is spot on, Yellvet. The "bad fur day" line cracked me up. lol
Statistics: Posted by DinoRos — Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:49 am
Posted: August 11, 2018, 2:49 pm
We appreciate the heads up regarding the Bacon Rind fire. We were unaware of it as we had to cut our stay at our Idaho place short this summer. The link will be a big help to us to keep informed. We hiked the Bacon Rind trail in June and really enjoyed the beauty along with seeing a huge grizzly track and a wolf track. I realize that fire plays an important role, but I selfishly wish for it to be in places I don't frequent.
We would love to come for a visit sometime. Maybe we could hike that trail near your place.
Thanks again.
Bill and Karen
We would love to come for a visit sometime. Maybe we could hike that trail near your place.
Thanks again.
Bill and Karen
Statistics: Posted by billandkaren — Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:22 pm
Posted: August 11, 2018, 4:22 am
I was half way expecting an eagle to swoop down and snatch that owl they so ceremoniously released back into the wild. Also, I didn't like the way they seemed to romanticize the wolves as playing, when a group of them were singling out one other wolf and rather brutally attacking it in order to establish the pecking order.
Statistics: Posted by mdtrot — Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:44 pm
Posted: August 10, 2018, 8:44 pm
Thought I'd mention 2more things. Since we're currently in the fire season, you may want to keep tabs on the Bacon Rind fire. It's not all that far from West Yellowstone. Looks like there's going to be a public meeting in West Y. for residents in the area to give them the latest info on the fire.
The Derby Fire took out our family cabin in 2006 and it almost took out our home in Nye(just upstream from the cabin). The Derby was a small 5-acre fire when it started but it ultimately consumed over a quarter million acres of forest land and destroyed several private homes and outbuildings. The fire started on 8/22/06 (the date is imprinted on my memory) and wasn't under control until mid October. Right now, I think your new place should be OK . But I also know from personal experience that you can never underestimate the power, unpredictability and potential destruction of a wildfire, since a wildfire has a tendency to generate it's own weather. The good news is that regional fire fighters have been jumping on fires immediately rather than letting 'em burn ever since the Derby Fire hit our area. But I did want to give you a heads up just in case you weren't aware of the Bacon Rind Fire.
Here's the link where you can monitor the progress and status of the Bacon Rind fire: https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/article/5992/45352/. Looks like there's going to be a public meeting for West Y. residents fairly soon to update them on the status of the fire. The official Yellowstone website also has a link to all the active fires in the Park.
Lastly, I want you to know that you have an open invitation to come for a visit if you're ever in the Nye area during the summer. Just need a little notice so I can make sure that we'll be home to greet you. Safe journeys!
The Derby Fire took out our family cabin in 2006 and it almost took out our home in Nye(just upstream from the cabin). The Derby was a small 5-acre fire when it started but it ultimately consumed over a quarter million acres of forest land and destroyed several private homes and outbuildings. The fire started on 8/22/06 (the date is imprinted on my memory) and wasn't under control until mid October. Right now, I think your new place should be OK . But I also know from personal experience that you can never underestimate the power, unpredictability and potential destruction of a wildfire, since a wildfire has a tendency to generate it's own weather. The good news is that regional fire fighters have been jumping on fires immediately rather than letting 'em burn ever since the Derby Fire hit our area. But I did want to give you a heads up just in case you weren't aware of the Bacon Rind Fire.
Here's the link where you can monitor the progress and status of the Bacon Rind fire: https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/article/5992/45352/. Looks like there's going to be a public meeting for West Y. residents fairly soon to update them on the status of the fire. The official Yellowstone website also has a link to all the active fires in the Park.
Lastly, I want you to know that you have an open invitation to come for a visit if you're ever in the Nye area during the summer. Just need a little notice so I can make sure that we'll be home to greet you. Safe journeys!
Statistics: Posted by yellvet — Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:40 am
Posted: August 10, 2018, 3:40 pm
Thanks, Yellvet, for your response. It helps me to know that my reaction was not way off. I have read accounts of the bear attacks you referred to and have a healthy respect for the bears. We always carry bear spray and try to follow proper protocol when we are hiking in bear country. I wondered if the attitude in general of the rangers in Glacier is just different than in Yellowstone, but it sounds like from what your telling me, it just depends on the ranger.
We also recognize that even if you do all the right things, there is an element of risk while hiking in bear country. We have seen tracks and scratch trees before, but it was the first time we actually saw a bear on the trail. We have discussed this and have decided that for us, it is worth the small amount of risk involved to be able to see this beautiful country and experience the awe that can only be felt in these wild places.
Sounds like you live in a beautiful area. Our primary home is in Colorado but we purchased a little fixer-upper place just over the Idaho border from West Yellowstone a couple of years ago. We have really enjoyed getting acquainted with the trails in the surrounding national forests, but recognize we are in bear country there as well.
Sorry but we did not get the name of the ranger. Maybe she was just a summer intern or something. We were concerned because there were a number of people we assume from the nearby campground who were on the trail asking about seeing the large bull moose that was further along the trail (that could have been a potential danger as well. It was huge and very lose to the trail). There were mothers with smaller children and a group of three boys that seemed to be by themselves in the 10-12 year-old range. Some of these people were not dressed for hiking and were certainly not carrying bear spray. A major part of the resonsibility lies with these people and the parents who did not recognize the risk in taking to the trail unprepared. But it is also the rangers' job to try and protect the ignorant.
We also recognize that even if you do all the right things, there is an element of risk while hiking in bear country. We have seen tracks and scratch trees before, but it was the first time we actually saw a bear on the trail. We have discussed this and have decided that for us, it is worth the small amount of risk involved to be able to see this beautiful country and experience the awe that can only be felt in these wild places.
Sounds like you live in a beautiful area. Our primary home is in Colorado but we purchased a little fixer-upper place just over the Idaho border from West Yellowstone a couple of years ago. We have really enjoyed getting acquainted with the trails in the surrounding national forests, but recognize we are in bear country there as well.
Sorry but we did not get the name of the ranger. Maybe she was just a summer intern or something. We were concerned because there were a number of people we assume from the nearby campground who were on the trail asking about seeing the large bull moose that was further along the trail (that could have been a potential danger as well. It was huge and very lose to the trail). There were mothers with smaller children and a group of three boys that seemed to be by themselves in the 10-12 year-old range. Some of these people were not dressed for hiking and were certainly not carrying bear spray. A major part of the resonsibility lies with these people and the parents who did not recognize the risk in taking to the trail unprepared. But it is also the rangers' job to try and protect the ignorant.
Statistics: Posted by billandkaren — Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:31 pm
Posted: August 9, 2018, 8:31 pm
I would rate the whole thing pretty low. I guess they got what they wanted...Yellowstone in the title and people like me will watch even if it isn't very well done.
Statistics: Posted by BeartoothTucker — Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:45 am
Posted: August 9, 2018, 5:45 pm
billandkaren, I'm happy that you had a wonderful trip to Glacier but you may want to consider contacting the Glacier Super or Chief Ranger about your grizzly bear encounter on the trail and the "no-big deal" reaction that you got from the gal at the ranger station. That was inexcusable and the Chief Ranger needs to know that. I've lived in/near bear country in MT for over 3 decades and I've hiked all over the mountains in our area. But I also know that a complacent mindset about bears or one stupid move from me or another hiker could get me or someone else killed. NW MT and, especially, Glacier NP is widely acclaimed for its high number of bears (both grizzlies and black) and for Glacier's vast hiking trail system. Because of that, I think that you'll find that a lot of people in MT, including rangers, LEO's and hiking visitors are far too complacent about the dangers associated with meeting a grizzly bear or even a black bear on a narrow path or hiking trail. The same thing happens where I live, along the north slope of the Beartooth Mountains, just NE of Slough Creek. We have a horse/hiking trail less than 7 miles from my house that goes from the trail head through the Beartooth Absaroka Beartooth Wilderness Area, up over the Beartooth Mountains and then ends up in the open meadow that's just across from Site #4 at the Slough Creek Campground. Like Glacier, the AB Wilderness Area also has a very high grizzly bear population. But over the years, Glacier has had some of the most vicious grizzly bear attacks on record. People aren't just mauled, they're savagely attacked, killed and then buried and eaten later. I have to wonder if that gal at the ranger station has ever seen the movie called the Night of the Grizzlies. It's a true story that documents the savage, unrelenting rampage of one or two Glacier NP grizzly bears that stalked and killed some young adults who were on a hiking trip in Glacier. They were sleeping in their sleeping bags under the stars but their campsite was fairly close to a Glacier NP building when the attacks took place. The movie documentary includes original film footage from the late 60's. IMO, the documentary should be required viewing for all national park hikers before they hit the trail and not just a 20-minute video. PBS-MT usually runs the movie around Christmas time, so the hiking forum members from MT may want to watch for it in December. It definitely makes ya wonder whether or not you're ready or prepared for a hike in the wild. The Glacier incident is very similar to the incident that happened at the Soda Butte Campground just a few years back when a camper was sleeping in his tent. A grizzly bear sow killed him in the tent. As I recall, Park officials said that the camper had kept a very clean camp and had left nothing outside or inside the tent that would have prompted the grizzly bear attack. In both the Glacier and Soda Butte incidents, however, the necropsy reports revealed that both grizzlies had been starving and needed food to survive. In other words, find food or die. Both attacks were totally unprovoked but both grizzlies were found and put down. If I'm not mistake the cubs from the Soda Butte incident were sent to either Zoo Montana in Billings or the Discovery Center in West Yellowstone.
Hikers AND rangers need to remember that all bears are dangerous and unpredictable, they each have their own personality but can kill or injure people under any given set of circumstances. They might be hungry, they might have a tooth ache or maybe they're just being ornery and cranky because they're having a bad fur day. Ya just don't know.
You did the right thing, guys, by going to the ranger station and reporting your grizzly bear encounter on the trail. In doing so, you may have saved the life of another hiker or the grizzly bear or kept someone else or a child from being severely hurt. To a bear, a young child could easily be interpreted as being EZ prey and a meal, especially, if the griz was hungry. Did you get the name of the gal at the ranger station who blew you off? She should re reported to the Chief Ranger, immediately. If you'd rather not get involved at this point, I'd be happy to contact the appropriate ranger for you, on your behalf. Or I can call Kerry Gunther, the bear management specialist in Yellowstone. The gal's bear researcher boy friend may be keeping track of certain Glacier grizzly bears because of some of the brutal grizzly attacks that have happened in Glacier in the past. Doesn't matter, though. The way that gal treated you was wrong, it was totally inappropriate and certainly wasn't in the best interest of Glacier or the NPS. I realize that Yellowstone and Glacier are now entering the peak bear season because bears are entering their annual life stage called hyperphasia (pigging out before their winter hibernation). But this is all the more reason why both Parks should be viewing park visitors and hikers as valuable assets for better bear management and visitor safety and not as stupid idiots or public enemies. I'm truly very sorry that you were treated so rudely. But this is a misguided mindset that has plagued many park rangers (full time and seasonal) for a number of years. And you're not the only ones, either. Been there myself, more times than I'd like to remember. That's why it's important that you talk to or write the Chief Ranger about your grizzly encounter and how you were treated at the ranger station. Yellowstone requires all visitors to report a bear sighting. So Glacier probably does, too. So why were you treated so rudely? Could it be that the gal didn't want to "waste" her valuable time filling out a bear sighting report. "Well, tough noogies, Toots! Do your job and show your Park visitors some respect."
End of conversation.........
Hikers AND rangers need to remember that all bears are dangerous and unpredictable, they each have their own personality but can kill or injure people under any given set of circumstances. They might be hungry, they might have a tooth ache or maybe they're just being ornery and cranky because they're having a bad fur day. Ya just don't know.
You did the right thing, guys, by going to the ranger station and reporting your grizzly bear encounter on the trail. In doing so, you may have saved the life of another hiker or the grizzly bear or kept someone else or a child from being severely hurt. To a bear, a young child could easily be interpreted as being EZ prey and a meal, especially, if the griz was hungry. Did you get the name of the gal at the ranger station who blew you off? She should re reported to the Chief Ranger, immediately. If you'd rather not get involved at this point, I'd be happy to contact the appropriate ranger for you, on your behalf. Or I can call Kerry Gunther, the bear management specialist in Yellowstone. The gal's bear researcher boy friend may be keeping track of certain Glacier grizzly bears because of some of the brutal grizzly attacks that have happened in Glacier in the past. Doesn't matter, though. The way that gal treated you was wrong, it was totally inappropriate and certainly wasn't in the best interest of Glacier or the NPS. I realize that Yellowstone and Glacier are now entering the peak bear season because bears are entering their annual life stage called hyperphasia (pigging out before their winter hibernation). But this is all the more reason why both Parks should be viewing park visitors and hikers as valuable assets for better bear management and visitor safety and not as stupid idiots or public enemies. I'm truly very sorry that you were treated so rudely. But this is a misguided mindset that has plagued many park rangers (full time and seasonal) for a number of years. And you're not the only ones, either. Been there myself, more times than I'd like to remember. That's why it's important that you talk to or write the Chief Ranger about your grizzly encounter and how you were treated at the ranger station. Yellowstone requires all visitors to report a bear sighting. So Glacier probably does, too. So why were you treated so rudely? Could it be that the gal didn't want to "waste" her valuable time filling out a bear sighting report. "Well, tough noogies, Toots! Do your job and show your Park visitors some respect."
End of conversation.........
Statistics: Posted by yellvet — Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:06 am
Posted: August 8, 2018, 12:06 pm
Sadly, this is exactly what happens when National Geographic and not the cinematographer/photographer takes editorial control over all the original video footage. Instead of presenting an honest look at wildlife in their natural Yellowstone environment, the Nat Geo video editing staff turns the final video product into a grade-school level animal fantasy movie...giving animals human-like characteristics. I hate to clue Nat Geo in but most Yellowstone visitors and advocates are not little kids. They're adults!
Statistics: Posted by yellvet — Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:40 pm
Posted: August 8, 2018, 5:40 am
Yeah, it was pretty lame. Also, did it look to anyone else like the location of that shot of the two announcer guys by a wooden structure was that barn on Mormon Row near Jackson? If so, that's a long way from YNP.
Edit: I see on tonight's show that is not the case.
Edit: I see on tonight's show that is not the case.
Statistics: Posted by mdtrot — Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:53 pm
Posted: August 8, 2018, 12:53 am
I am also disappointed. Was really looking forward to it. When the guy suggested that people would expect the bear to be catching salmon in a spawning run and not grazing in a field they lost me. I realize bears catch salmon in spawning runs, but in a show about Yellowstone you'd think they would work to keep it Yellowstone centric.
Statistics: Posted by BeartoothTucker — Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:48 pm
Posted: August 7, 2018, 7:48 pm
I too was really disappointed in what I saw. I completely agree with you yellvet! I taped last night and just watched it and one of the announcers kept calling the geysers "geezers". His counterpart corrected him but how ignorant!
Statistics: Posted by Hike Yellowstone — Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:30 am
Posted: August 7, 2018, 3:30 pm
Saw the first part last night. What a huge disappointment....from start to finish!! Not only was it a technical disaster (mics weren't working properly) but much of the show did not appear to be "live", IMO. The show was packed with lame comments from the hosts who obviously knew little, if anything, about Yellowstone or its wildlife. The special also contained "canned" footage that was, obviously shot at another point in time or location which, no doubt, was simply added as a time filler for the special.
More importantly, why on earth would anyone choose the month of August to broadcast a "live" show from the Park and the GYE if the primary focus was observing Yellowstone wildlife? August is probably the worst month of the year for observing wildlife in the GYE. Why? Because August weather in the GYE is very dry and HOT, which tends to drive most animals to the higher elevations to escape the heat. Showing wildlife footage that was shot from the road side by the Yellowstone Institute in the Lamar Valley (with cars driving and whizzing by) is hardly my idea of being in the wilderness. I suspect that other Yellowstone enthusiasts who watched Part 1, questioned that as well.
For those of you who saw the first part, did you notice how the gal in the helicopter kept saying that she wasn't able to spot any wolves? I wish that I would have counted the number of times that she and the ground photographer kept saying that they weren't seeing any wolves "at the moment" or that they must have just missed an animal or would check back later. I blame the show's producers and the technical crew for that because they, obviously hadn't done their homework or done any research on Yellowstone wildlife or where they normally would be, during the month of August. I almost felt sorry for the gal in the helicopter and the ground photographers. They must have been totally embarrassed, not to mention being humiliated, especially, when Nat Geo had touted them as being some of the best wildlife experts and photographers in the world. Ha!!
Yellowstone has always been a big draw that tends to increase a network's viewers and ratings. But IMO, Yellowstone Live was neither an honest or a well-produced show. So whether or not I'll I'll even waste my time watching the rest of the Yellowstone special remains to be seen. The entire production of the show was obviously done on the cheap. I've got a BA in Communications with a mass communications option. My hubby also worked in the media for over 20+ years (radio and television). We've also been going to Yellowstone together for over 30+ years. So we can say from our professional experience that you never ever do a live remote broadcast from the field unless your equipment is working flawlessly....And, you always have backup equipment with you in the event that any of your gear should fail (like the mics in Pt. 1 of the Nat Geo Yellowstone special). Did Nat Geo care? Obviously not, in light of what I saw. In fact, I bet many of our own forum members could have done a far better job and, probably, would have enjoyed contributing to the show (ie: providing GYE wildlife locations for specific animals and birds) based on their own personal knowledge of Yellowstone and the GYE wildlife coupled with their own professional photography and technical expertise.
On a scale from 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, I rate last night's show a minus 10. Hopefully,the rest of the Yellowstone Live Special will be better, both technically and in content. At this point, all I can say is, "Shame on you, Natl Geographic. You could have and should have done a much better job!" For me, the Yellowstone Live special was a major flop. And, that's really too bad because the special could have been a huge boost to help promote Yellowstone and give global Nat Geo viewers an opportunity to see, up close, the power, magic and majesty of Yellowstone.
I'm pretty darn happy that Bob and Ray didn't see last night's show. Bob and Ray, you see, are my two most favorite Slough Creek bison bulls that I've photographed for several years. If they had seen last night's special, they'd likely be rolling around in a wallow down by the Creek right now, kicking up sand and snorting their disapproval of last night's Pt. 1 of the Yellowstone Live special.
More importantly, why on earth would anyone choose the month of August to broadcast a "live" show from the Park and the GYE if the primary focus was observing Yellowstone wildlife? August is probably the worst month of the year for observing wildlife in the GYE. Why? Because August weather in the GYE is very dry and HOT, which tends to drive most animals to the higher elevations to escape the heat. Showing wildlife footage that was shot from the road side by the Yellowstone Institute in the Lamar Valley (with cars driving and whizzing by) is hardly my idea of being in the wilderness. I suspect that other Yellowstone enthusiasts who watched Part 1, questioned that as well.
For those of you who saw the first part, did you notice how the gal in the helicopter kept saying that she wasn't able to spot any wolves? I wish that I would have counted the number of times that she and the ground photographer kept saying that they weren't seeing any wolves "at the moment" or that they must have just missed an animal or would check back later. I blame the show's producers and the technical crew for that because they, obviously hadn't done their homework or done any research on Yellowstone wildlife or where they normally would be, during the month of August. I almost felt sorry for the gal in the helicopter and the ground photographers. They must have been totally embarrassed, not to mention being humiliated, especially, when Nat Geo had touted them as being some of the best wildlife experts and photographers in the world. Ha!!
Yellowstone has always been a big draw that tends to increase a network's viewers and ratings. But IMO, Yellowstone Live was neither an honest or a well-produced show. So whether or not I'll I'll even waste my time watching the rest of the Yellowstone special remains to be seen. The entire production of the show was obviously done on the cheap. I've got a BA in Communications with a mass communications option. My hubby also worked in the media for over 20+ years (radio and television). We've also been going to Yellowstone together for over 30+ years. So we can say from our professional experience that you never ever do a live remote broadcast from the field unless your equipment is working flawlessly....And, you always have backup equipment with you in the event that any of your gear should fail (like the mics in Pt. 1 of the Nat Geo Yellowstone special). Did Nat Geo care? Obviously not, in light of what I saw. In fact, I bet many of our own forum members could have done a far better job and, probably, would have enjoyed contributing to the show (ie: providing GYE wildlife locations for specific animals and birds) based on their own personal knowledge of Yellowstone and the GYE wildlife coupled with their own professional photography and technical expertise.
On a scale from 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, I rate last night's show a minus 10. Hopefully,the rest of the Yellowstone Live Special will be better, both technically and in content. At this point, all I can say is, "Shame on you, Natl Geographic. You could have and should have done a much better job!" For me, the Yellowstone Live special was a major flop. And, that's really too bad because the special could have been a huge boost to help promote Yellowstone and give global Nat Geo viewers an opportunity to see, up close, the power, magic and majesty of Yellowstone.
I'm pretty darn happy that Bob and Ray didn't see last night's show. Bob and Ray, you see, are my two most favorite Slough Creek bison bulls that I've photographed for several years. If they had seen last night's special, they'd likely be rolling around in a wallow down by the Creek right now, kicking up sand and snorting their disapproval of last night's Pt. 1 of the Yellowstone Live special.
Statistics: Posted by yellvet — Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:56 pm
Posted: August 6, 2018, 6:56 pm