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Statistics: Posted by Steve — Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:37 pm
You made plenty of great points. My point in posting the info about the clip in this forum is to let people see the speed, power, and agility of a bear if it gets to that level. And, the point in the 100 yard rule is to inform people how the Park Service in GTNP is currently enforcing the law on the books and nothing to do with whether it is a good rule. I think both topics relate to photographers in GTNP so I felt they belonged here.
Statistics: Posted by Mike Jackson — Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:12 pm
Statistics: Posted by deergal — Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:02 am
Sorry you have to leave. Thanks for all the pix and reports.
Safe and fun future travels to you.
Statistics: Posted by lah — Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:33 am
I do not know if the current drugs used for drugging bears and wolves are safe. It is common knowledge that all drugs have side effects. It would also seem naïve in this day and age to accept any representation made by the pharmaceutical industry regarding a drug's safety at face value.
The other comment worth making is that it is not fair to compare a bear's behavior when coming out of general anesthesia to a bear calmly grazing by the side of the road. Indeed, in observations made over the course of two decades, a grizzly that is aware of human presence in a roadside vehicle or outside of a vehicle on the other side of the road presents, on average, a far less of a danger to humans (and, ultimately, itself) than a bull moose, elk or bison during the rut. Why then, the 100 yard rule for the bear but a 25 yard rule for the rutting ungulate?
Finally, many times I have heard of the so-called "hundred yard rule". I have researched it in the United States Code, the Code of Federal Regulations and the Federal Register. I could find the rule in none of these places. Does anyone know where it can be located within these three authorities?
Note: I have read the rules regarding implementation of these so-called Superintendents' compendia. Unless rules in the Superintendent's compendia are TRUE emergency rules, they are subject to the same rule-making requirements as other federal rules. Specifically, proposed rules must first be published. After that, there must be a period open for public comment. After that, they must appear in the Federal Register as part of the laws of the United States. Would someone please point out where GTNP has dotted their proverbial "i's" and crossed their proverbial "t's" in order for those matters contained in the Superintendent's compendia to become part of the Federal Register?
Finally, I believe the following to be an absolutely unconstitutional delegation of power as it is overbroad to the point where it is literally allowing law enforcement officers and volunteers to make up the law, on the spot in their unfettered discretion:
"Failure to comply as directed by NPS staff (employees, volunteers, or agents) engaged in administering wildlife management operations or managing wildlife viewing opportunities.”
If this were interpreted literally, a park volunteer could tell those at a bear jam to strip naked and dance the Irish jig while reciting the alphabet backwards.
Who writes these so-called rules? Do they ever run them by their legal department? If they do, has anyone in their legal department actually passed a bar examination...or even taken a course in Constitutional law? The arrogance of this edict really rankles my Constitutional sensibilities....It is functionally the same as passing a law that says that a citizen stopped by a cop for any reason must follow the orders of the cop whether or not there is a legal basis for such directives.
Statistics: Posted by grizynp — Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:21 am
Statistics: Posted by MGoBlue — Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:50 am
the milky way over the terrace area a Mammoth was something I had to wait all to get because of the weather and road closure but finally made it over there at night
wild flowers are great
kicking up our Heels was fun
now it is time to leave
Statistics: Posted by Marcy — Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:47 am
You grizzly collection is unique. Preparing a book?
My compliments, Sam.
Statistics: Posted by willemw — Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:09 am
Statistics: Posted by DGeorge — Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:49 pm
WE are very grateful for ALL of you postings and information. You are a great resource. Your "100 Yard" lesson is -- as you say -- something every visitor to the Parks should have to view as part of their mandatory orientation. Great stuff...
This GRIZZLY video is AMAZING and should be part of the orientation training -- WOW GREAT STUFF !!!
Statistics: Posted by MrHemi1956 — Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:10 pm
Statistics: Posted by rockymtn — Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:20 am
American Sportsman aired 1965 - 1986
I think the red station wagon is a 57 model.
Here's a link to the Craighead's.
Statistics: Posted by Phayden — Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:12 am
We've been getting a lot of smoke from fires in neighboring states. Today, I went out looking for shots that are enhanced by the smoke.
I added a lot more of them from today on my daily updates page:
I stumbled upon a very nice bull moose in velvet today. There are a few shots of him on the page, too.
Statistics: Posted by Mike Jackson — Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:53 pm
I was thinking the safest place in the field might have been inside one of the bear traps once the doors were triggered.
Statistics: Posted by Mike Jackson — Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:15 pm
Statistics: Posted by Dorothy — Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:13 pm